Showing posts with label hunting. Show all posts
Showing posts with label hunting. Show all posts

25 October 2024

Cheap Handgun Hunting Challenge - It'll Be a .40 S&W

 For a while now, I've had an idea on how to setup an entry level rig for handgun hunting. And no, it's not a Hi Point. I suppose you could purchase the 10mm Hi Point with the red dot and it still be cheaper but I think my idea is more interesting. What can we do for under $500 that gets us into handgun hunting?

Over the last few years, I have spent tons of time pouring over internet data looking at ballistic gel testing results for the best cartridges for defensive applications for each caliber I have. When I started looking at using pistol cartridges for hunting whitetail deer, I amended the data requirements to look for factory loads that exceed the 18 inch maximum requirement. The closer I can get to 20 inches, the better. My favorite General Purpose load for .357 Magnum is the Remington 158 gr SJHP HTP load. They are in the 18 to 19 inch range. I can confirm a pass through at 100 yards on a smaller doe from my rifle. It's how I took my only deer in 2023. 

The loads that stuck out in Lucky Gunner's .40 S&W testing are the Remington Golden Saber Bonded 165 gr HP as they opened up to .66 inch and penetrated to an average of 19.6 inches, the Federal HST 180 grain at 18.5 inches of penetration at .72 inch and finally the SIG V-Crown 165 grain at .57 inch wide with 20.2 inches of penetration. All in all, I think the Federal HST load is my immediate pick. There are other notable loads in the list but I think those are the top ones. They all exceed the 18 inch FBI maximum and expanded out passed .50 inch. Please note that these loads were tested with a Glock 27 which has a 3.4 inch barrel.

If we choose the Federal HST option (part number P40HST1) for our load, we next need a launcher. 

If you know where to look, I think the best option is the classic police trade in, Glock 22. This is the .40 S&W version of the original Glock 17. The gen 3 trade in units can be had regularly for under $350. As I type this, one well known surplus store has them on sale for $279.99. You can AIM to please with such a good price. The 22 has a 4.4 inch barrel which means you should expect a little more velocity compared to Lucky Gunner's testing pistol. More velocity means the bullet can go further toward your deer without reducing the expansion chances. You can take a further shot. 

If you want a little more precision than what the stock open sights give you, a red dot can be mounted. I recommend milling the slide but if you are on a tight budget, the dovetail mounts might work for you. Your mileage may vary on quality. 

My rough estimation on the out of pocket cost for this rig with red dot is around $450 with taxes and transfer fees and a box of ammo. While it's still more expensive than the Hi-Point, I expect the Glock is a much more reliable option. At the very least, you will have a good self defense gun if this doesn't work out. 

Looking at LG's data set, the HST load achieved 960 fps average. The extra 1 inch on the 22 should get you closer to Federal's claimed 1010 fps. If we plug in 1010 fps into a ballistic calculator and zero at 25 yards, 960 fps is around 43 yards from the muzzle. We're also around .4 inch down. Thankfully, the 180 grain pill is pretty hefty and maintains velocity pretty well. At 50 yards, we're looking at 950 fps which we should still see expansion based on LG's findings. I think that's good enough for a deer stand gun. 

While I don't have the funds to do this at the moment, what I do have is a SIG P226 in .40 S&W that I bought years ago. It also as a 4.4 inch barrel. I'm starting to think that maybe it's time to resurrect a project I had for that pistol a while back. 

That said, my proposal is this, the police trade in Glock 22 along with the Federal HST 180 grain load is likely the best inexpensive way to get into handgun hunting. 

12 July 2024

101 Days to go for Deer Season 2024 - Gun Goals

October 21 is the opening day for the deer rifle season here in Georgia. I've been going over what build I want to try out this year. Last year was the Marlin 1894 CST in 357 Magnum which went great but I only got one doe with it. Part of the limiting factors for last year were surgery and other IVF related things. This year will be different. We will have a baby to take care of. I still have builds and ammunition choices I want to test out but I'm not sure if I will have time so I'm trying to sort out where to start.

Last year, I got three setups finished and zeroed in preparation of the baby girl getting here and not having the money to spend on the projects. First was the updated load selection for the Remington 700 .300 Blackout build. In 2022, I made a successful hunt using the Hornady 190 grain SUB-X loads. I changed to a custom ordered solid copper, hollow point subsonic load from Discreet Ballistics. I want to know if they will be effective on the whitetail here in GA. Sadly, they are running just a little too fast to be truly subsonic from my setup. I can still test the effectiveness of those wild, Machined Expander hollow points. I had actually made some changes to the stock by replacing it with an AR pistol buffer tube and adapter for my niece so she should go out with the rifle. She's a little small for the JMAC Customs stock but the buffer tube with a foam cheek rest let her get behind the scope with the rifle mounted in a tripod. She didn't get anything so I put the stock back on.

I like the idea of confirming if these bullets work well or not so that puts the Remington 700 in .300 BLK as our first option.



Next is the WWSD Hunter .300 Blackout build with the SIG 120 grain copper hollow points. The WWSD was originally chambered for .350 Legend but I ran into several issues at the same time and chose to rebarrel for .300 Blackout. The replacement SIG Romeo5 red dot and the Juliet 3X magnifier would more or less, make the WWSD AR-15 build a General Purpose rifle than a hunting rifle. However, given the lightweight construction and materials used in the WWSD concept, having a rifle this light can be very handy.

After finishing the build, I zeroed the rifle for 50 yards and confirmed velocities around 2400 fps. That should put the bullet around three inches down at 200 yards. That said, I don't know for sure what the minimum velocity is for those bullets to expand is and the lowest number I had been able to locate was around 2000 fps. The chart shows that I should expect around 150 yards to hit that 2000 fps mark. If all of that is accurate, the WWSD Hunter 300 Blackout should be a 150 yard hunting rifle. 

That said, should is a big word and the only way to know for sure is to get out there a bag deer. Seeing as I have already taken deer with the Remington 700, I'm inclined to take out the AR-15 this time to get in-field time with the rifle.



With the silencer attached, the WWSD AR-15 is under 9 lbs

Finally, the Taurus 66 with the Burris Fastfire 3 and the Hornady Custom XTP 158 grain loads. Last year, I was able to get the Fastfire to mount up with a cheap mount I found on the internet. I zeroed it for around 25 yards and should still be good for around 75 yards based on metrics gathered from various sources on the internet from gel testing. The game plan for the Model 66 is to carry it around with me during the deer season while I'm doing chores. If a deer shows up then I will take the opportunity to bag it.



The 66 is my first foray into the world of handgun hunting. It was originally meant for bear defense while hiking trails around Appalachia. I don't hike anymore being on the South side of Atlanta since there just aren't that many good trails. None of the trails are likely to have bear down this far. Getting North of Atlanta takes at least an hour on it's own to get around I-285 so it's just not worth the headache to drive the 2 hours to Dahlonega and further. I sure do miss the mountains. 

Anyway, with the Model 66 setup and zeroed. It's no extra effort to carry the revolver in place of my P365XL. Because of it being easy to carry, I guarantee it will be out with me on the farm from 21 OCT to 14 JAN 2025.

Originally, the 66 had an adjustable rear sight which should have been fine but I wanted to see if anyone made a red dot mount. Just for fun, I ordered one and it showed up. It took some doing but I was able to beat the mount and pins into submission and test fit the 8 MOA Burris FastFire 3 I had on my turkey Remington 870. Seeing as how I am rather familiar with red dots, I figured it would make getting into handgun hunting much easier. I have a very limited supply of .357 Magnum and practicing to make 75 yard shots with iron sights takes time and ammo. This helps mitigate training needs for now. I will likely switch the dot back to the 870 and put the irons back on. That 8 MOA dot is just huge for what I'm trying to do.



Ignore the butcher job I did on the holster to make the red dot fit. I'll clean it up some day.

Finally, I could continue on with the Marlin 1894 CST in .357 Magnum. I have come to enjoy that rifle and I like the idea behind continuing to prove that my setup and selection process do actually work. 



For the bonus option, if I feel like it, the Winchester 94 is back in action and ready for work. Mostly. I was able to get the rifle out to the range and zeroed with 170 grain JSPs. The open sights are good to go with the Turnbull Restoration red dot mount ready if I want to go that route. The only red dot I have available is on the Henry 22 for the moment but at 50 yards. The iron sights should be fine. That could be a fun option especially if I get to go out on an invited hunt with someone this year.



There you have it. The many options for hunting that I can choose. Depending on how aggressive I am this year and what opportunities present themselves, I can take all of these out over the season. 

26 November 2023

Military Equipment for Hunting? No Way!

 You can't use "military style" equipment to hunt! If that's you then read on but if you know, you know. What is "military style" anyway? It's a term used by gun-control advocates to describe firearms with modernized features and accessories and an aesthetic that resembles equipment that looks like items used by modern militaries. What if I told you that in the U.S. we've been using not just "military style" for hunting but actual, literally military equipment to hunt deer and other game for over a century? How about since the beginning of our nation? How about before that? Would you believe me?

I hope to articulate to you the historical use of military arms and ammunition by hunters and Americans in general for civil use including the AR-15. From the weapons used to fight against U.S. soldiers to government created cartridges for war-fighting  still in use today, let's take a look at not "military style" but actual military equipment. 

First, let's look at today. Today's de-facto "hunting rifle" is the bolt action rifle typically chambered in a big caliber such as the universally capable 30-06. Bolt action files didn't always exist. How did we get to today where they became the default? Military arms. The history of the bolt action system stems from early 1800's development in Europe for a breach loading, military rifle. As improvements were made from paper cartridges for use in systems like the Dreyse needle rifle in the 1820's and transitioned into metallic cartridges, rifles such as the Lebel 1886, European nations and armies were chasing repeating, magazine fed rifles for fighting their wars.

Tactics of the era are important to note as the vollyfire tactic still applied but these newer cartridges with lots of powder and rifles with long barrels give these armies the ability to launch vollies of bullets at their adversary from further and further away. The farther your are and can reach them without them reaching you, the better. Improvements in powder leading to smokeless powder make the distance even further. Changes to higher velocities and bullet designs made additional improvements. By the end of the 1890's, the European arms makers had developed the basis of the rifles used today for hunting and were actively fielding in large numbers, rifles such as the Mauser 1893 or the Norwegian designed Krag-Jorgensen. 

The Mauser 1893 and Krag rifles are special in this discussion because they became the two primary rifles in the Spanish-American War in 1898. The U.S. discovered that the Krag, while a great rifle, the cartridge simply was just not as capable as the Mauser designed 7x57 cartridge. The U.S. found out the hard way; in blood. After winning the fight, the U.S. began development of a new cartridge and a gun to replace the already new Krag and it's 30-40 cartridge. That rifle we know as the 1903 Springfield. Essentially a knockoff Mauser, the development of the 1903 rifle and it's cartridge, eventually the 30-06 after changes were made, replaced three different rifle cartridges in U.S. inventory. If you haven't caught it yet, 30-06 was developed by the U.S. government. The same 30-06 used by your uncle, daddy or grandfather to hunt whitetail deer or elk got it's start as a military rifle cartridge. 

Another question arises. When did hunters start using bolt action rifles though? I don't had a great answer for that yet but from what I have found is that we need to look at surplus military rifles. 

The U.S. had fielded limited numbers of bolt action rifles in the late 1880's as the Remington Lee. Remington may have sold commercially some of those rifles to civilians but based on the manufactured numbers, those numbers would have been small if any. After the end of the Spanish-American War, we can start talking about surplus Mausers and Krags. Bannerman's was a company that purchase huge quantities of surrendered military equipment for cheap and shipped that back to the U.S. The history of Bannerman's is fascinating. I recommend reading up on them. 

Bannerman's would go on to sell huge numbers of these military Mauser 1893 rifles to civilians. Additionally, Krag rifles would be surplussed by the government and sold to civilians. One of those Krag rifles made it to a man named Jack O'Connor via a private sale. Mr. O'Connor proceeded to use that rifle as a young boy, he says he paid a $1.50 for, to hunt a variety of animals in Arizona. I also recommend reading up on Jack O'Connor. Mr. O'Connor would be like many other Americans who acquired a cheap surplus military rifle and used it to hunt. 

Let's take a quick tally. We have noted three rifle cartridges and two surplus military rifles that are being used at this point for civilian applications. The Mauser 1893 and the Krag rifles along with the 7x57 and 30-40 Krag cartridges and the 30-06. You probably don't remember seeing the first two on shelves in Walmart but you'll find 30-06.

By World War I, the European militaries have again made further refinements in military bolt action rifles but WWI was a new beast. A wild mixture of new, old and commercial equipment was fielded by nations during the massive conflict. The number of new weapons made for the conflict is staggering and once the war was over, the number of surplus firearms would have been equally staggering. 

Mausers, Lebels, Gras', Chassepots, Kropatcheks, Lees, Remingtons, Mannlichers, Steyers, Berthiers, Ross', Winchesters, Martinis. Mosin, Brownings, Carcanos, Vetterlis just to name a few. Once the war was over, the number of bolt action rifles surplussed is incredible. This includes the cartridges they shoot such as the .303 British, 8x57 Mauser in addtion to the 7x57, 6.5x55 and 7.62x54R. All have been used to take whitetail at some point in the U.S.

Many of these rifles would come to the U.S. and gone through a process called sporterization. The idea is that many of the rifles not sold as is to U.S. civilians would go through a process to make them lighter and better for hunting. Sometimes it was cutting the stocks to make the lighter and sometimes it was far more intense. Many rifles would be rebarreled to use 30-06. The 1920's would have seen a huge number of surplus rifles for very cheap money. 

World War I for the U.S. would have also meant that manufacturers such as Remington, Westinghouse and Winchester were picking up contracts to make guns for basically everyone. By the end of the war, the manufacturers that survived sold contract rifles no longer needed to the commercial market. Remington sold the Model 30 which were basically spare parts guns built from the M1917 pattern rifle. Winchester had won a contract to manufacture the 1903 Springfield which later sold the Model 54 starting in 1925 which is pretty much a Mauser 98 action. The Model 54 was later replaced by the hugely popular Model 70. Sporterzied 1903 rifles can be found with a simple internet search. 

World War II resulted in pretty much the same situation. The large numbers of surplus M1 Garand and Carbines along with the imported foreign rifles would have been sold to the civilian population. 

From what I can tell, I speculate that the 1920's is about when bolt-action rifles became much more popular and the most popular models sold can trace their origins back to military designs. The models of today have improved and simplified the concept to a point that they can be made pretty inexpensively and well. Inexpensive to produce leads to inexpensive to sell which makes rifles easier to get. 100 years of military bolt action rifles eventually lead to commercialization and adoption of bolt action commercial rifles.  

Let's dive further into the past and look at military rifles in civilian hands. Bolt action rifles replaced single shot, breach loading rifles. In the U.S. the M1873 "trapdoor" and it's .45-70 cartridge became a widespread cartridge starting in 1873. Also known as the .45-70 Government, because it was developed by the U.S. Government, is still available today. While trapdoor rifles aren't common, Marlin sells it's 1895 lever action rifle that uses the cartridge and Henry sells both lever action and single shot rifles. Hunters have been using similar rifles to hunt for I honestly don't know how long. I don't think I could find out even if I tried. In simple terms, .45-70 is just another U.S. military rifle cartridge developed used by hunters and civilians for legitimate reasons today. 

45-70 wasn't the first metallic cartridge for government work but it was one that replaced another that replaced muskets. The Civil War era in the U.S. is honestly no different in the perspective above. After the war, surplussed rifles made their way into hands of the citizens for whatever use. One story I read that you can read here was about a man whos father had acquired a reworked Hawken. In that story a blacksmith in the town the father lived had been in the process of converting a Civil War era rifle into a smoothbore to fire shot. He was converting a military rifle into a shotgun for hunting. In the U.S., the militia system would have resulted in many weapons being used for both hunting and militia duty. 

Let's do another recap.  

In terms of cartridges, we have covered 7x57, 30-40 Krag, 45-70 and 30-06. I have mentioned other cartridges that, were it not for the pandemic related shortages, manufacturers might still be making ammunition in those calibers. The ability to handload for those cartridges is important in today's world to keep those old guns alive and shooting. 

From the rifle perspective we have several rifles that made their way into hands of the People and used for their purposes. A whole family of systems, single shot and bolt action have military intentions at their creation and yet they exist today in the world of civilian use without thought to their origins. 

On an aside, the bolt action rifle world is typically reduced to two action lengths. Long action or "standard" and short action. These standard action / long action rifles where the norm due to cartridges such as 30-06 being so wide spread. 30-06 is also responsible for development of several commercial hunting cartridges like 270 Winchester. Take note of that name for later. 

Let's go forward. Post World War II.

The cartridge that we know today as 308 Winchester has a long history. The development cycle is long but a look at the T65 series of experimental cartridges leads to what we call the 7.62x51 NATO cartridge. Today, 7.62 NATO is pretty much the backbone of support arms for Western militaries for machine guns and sniper rifles and select rifles. Winchester had been paying attention to what was going on and took pre-adoption versions of the cartridge to market. This became the 308 Winchester cartridge. They are nearly identical with differences in pressure being the most important. Rifles such as the M14, FAL and G3 all use the 7.62 NATO but commercial versions use the more powerful version being configured for 308 Winchester. 

308 Winchester is just another rifle cartridge with origins in the military world adopted by the commercial market for civilian use. I would love to see the number of 308 Winchester rifles sold by manufacturers compared to the other cartridges to see which sells the most. 

Where the 7.62 NATO replaced the 30-06 cartridge, the 5.56 NATO cartridge replaced the 7.62 NATO round as the primary infantry cartridge. In the commercial world 5.56 NATO, 223 Remington is the name though both are marketed side by side. The AR-15 replaced the M14 and the M14 replaced the M1 Garand. Today, the M14 can still be found from companies like Fulton Armory or commercial versions like the M1A from Springfield Armory. The M1A can function as a hunting rifle if needed but the M14's legacy is dying off and are mostly used for general use and target shooting. The M1 Garand could easily be used for hunting but CMP Garand rifles are dwindling. Surplus M1 Garand rifles are still for sale but can be pretty expensive depending on grade. 

This leads us to the AR-15. The AR-15 is, in my opinion, the rifle bringing semi-auto rifles into the deer stand in larger quantities than other rifles ever before. While rifles like Remington's semi-auto platforms like the 740 and 7400 were popular, they just aren't as widespread as the AR-15. While the .223 Remington commercial cartridge's bullet weights are much lower than cartridges like 30-06 or 308 Winchester, the velocities are relatively similar. This allows manufacturers to produce bullets such as jacketed soft points or hollow points that expand nicely to more than double the original bullet diameter. A good bullet can easily reach two times the diameter of the 22 caliber bullet making it a suitable bullet for hunting whitetail deer, feral hogs and coyotes. The lighter weight bullets may not have the same usable distances as 30-06 but it turns out that many hunters are taking shots at distances the .223 / 5.56 cartridge covers and does it with much less recoil and noise. It also means that the rifle you have setup for home defense can be configured with good hunting ammunition as serve a dual purpose. 

At this point we have a pretty big list of cartridges and rifles use by the military that have found their way into the hands of We the People who use them for our own legitimate uses. We haven't talked about pistol cartridges by the way and we won't. 

Now let's look to the future. 

The old 270 Winchester is based on the 30-06 cartridge. If you aren't familiar with it, I would recommend fixing that. A rifle setup for 270 WIN can push a 136 grain bullet from a 22 inch barrel at around 2800 feet per second. The bullets used are a .277 inch diameter. Recently, the U.S. military also is testing a .277 diameter based cartridge called 6.8x51mm. The cartridge was developed by SIG Sauer who now markets the cartridge as 277 Fury. While the cartridge isn't widely available at this time, the stated specifications of the 277 Fury have a 135 grain .277 caliber bullet moving around 2750 fps from a 16 inch barrel. I believe that as a few folks who have had access to the 13 inch barrel XM7 are clocking 2600 fps from said 13 inch barrel. It's reasonable that someone with an 18 inch barrel would match the 270 WIN performance but do it with a rifle that is much shorter. The action length needed for 270 is considered a long action while the 277 Fury is a short action cartridge. This results in around a half inch of length reduction in addition to the two inch or so difference. An over-all reduction of 2.5 inches for a hunting rifle can be a very welcome change. Where the change makes the most sense is in modern rifle designs. The XM7 rifle is similar in size to an AR-10 or SCAR in over-all size. What this means for us is a rifle the size slightly larger than an AR-15 now has performance similar to a 270 Winchester. If you live in an area where the longer range performance makes sense or you hunt a spot with longer range shots, a commercially available XM7 (MCX Spear) would make for a capable general purpose rifle. 

In summary, the legacy that military cartridges like 30-06 have on the hunting market is massive. Very old cartridges like 45-70 continue to persist. 5.56 and 223 REM are hear to stay. The rifles they started in may phase out but where those rifles started have paved the way for the future. I don't know what the future holds but it wouldn't surprise me to see some mid-aged guy in a deer stand with a SIG Cross in 277 Fury when I'm old and decrepit. 

I hope this article helps shed some light on the modern and historical legacy of military derived rifles and cartridges in use by hunters in the U.S. and that the idea of "military style" is mearly sensationalism to push an agenda. The history is far more interesting. 

Also we aren't covering surplus clothing like camo and other stuff. 

20 October 2023

A Late Start - Deer Season 2023

 Tomorrow is the start of the Georgia rifle season for deer. I had concerns that I wouldn't be able to make it at all due to IVF related activities. As it turns out, I will be able to go but just a little late. I will still be the one to provide my wife the twice daily injections but we won't be starting the retrieval process this week. That means I'm not bed-ridden.  Most likely, the retrieval will be next week. In fact, as I type this, we are waiting on the results for the most recent doctor's appointment my wife went to to see how she's progressing.

The whole process has been incredible. At the beginning of the week, we had only seen 5 uterus follicles doing their thing but on the Wednesday checkup, the number had grown to 8 with a few maturing nicely. We're pending the results of the Friday checkup now. 

This is all such a huge blessing and I would happily trade a whole season of hunting for a family of my own. If we do the retrieval next week, I will down for 3 days and prohibited from heavy lifting for a total of 2 weeks. That will make getting a deer onto the cargo carrier I use tricky. I'm hoping I can get something this weekend so I don't have to think about it while I'm down. 

I'm anxious to get out there. I'm taking my Marlin 1894 CST and the Taurus 66 both in .357 Magnum. I've got 3 spots on the Little Farm picked out for this year. I setup a stand overlooking the pond along with a natural blind next to it, a sitting spot tucked back into the woods where I know there's an active trail and finally my spot last year overlooking the bedding area where we see them. I forgot to set out my blind there along with corn and apples. I'm thinking this year, I want to work the back stretch but we'll see how this plays out. The weather is expected to be warm this weekend; in the mid 70's. Not exactly great but a least I won't be cold. 

On another note, I have a Springfield Armory 1911 TRP made back in 2002 that has Novak LoProfile tritium sights. I had bought it around 2009 used. I've been able to make accurate shots with it before but set it down on Monday. I was able to easily land 7 rounds in a 6 inch space around 25 paces from a bag. I've ordered a replacement adjustable rear sight after talking with Mike from Novak Sights. I had wanted to see what adjustable sights they had to push the distance from 25 yards point of impact to around 45 yards. I'm hoping to be able to use this 1911 as a target pistol along with something I can try to take a deer with. We shall see how that goes. The UMC Remington 230 JHP should do the job. 

Additionally, I got a new book. Elmer Keith's "Hell, I Was There" has been on my wish list for a while now. Knowing that I wouldn't be able to go do anything, my wonderful wife let me buy a copy to read while I'm stuck on the couch after my half of the IVF retrieval. I'm looking forward to reading it through. Mr. Keith's been gone since the 70's but he's doing a good job on selling me on both handgun hunting and .44 Magnum. 

I'll come back and edit this once we hear from the doctor's office about the wife's process. God is so great.

Update: We are holding at 8 follicles at this time with what looks like around 3 at or close to the mature level. I don't know anything about this subject but I took a guesstimation on projection. The nurse said we have another appointment on Monday and most likely will give the trigger shot to start the retrieval on Monday. We don't know for sure but that's the current estimate the doctor's office gave us. If that's the case, I'm praying that we have around 5 matured follicles ready to release an egg by next week with the current growth rate. It does appear that retrieval will be next week though a little later than expected. 

01 April 2021

Short Range Hunting Rifle - Same Job; New Tech or How an AR-15 is the Spiritual Successor to the Winchester 94

I starting hunting deer with a used, clapped out Winchester 94 built in the 1970's that I got running again and this year I replaced it with a brand new, high tech, custom built AR-15. 

Why do you need an AR-15? Because it does all the jobs a long gun really needs to do; put food on the table, defend the home and defend the Heartland from all threats foreign and domestic and do it in a way that is cost effective. 


BUT YOU CAN"T HUNT WITH AN AR-15!1!!! Blah blah blah.


Yes you can but just because you don't understand what's going on, doesn't mean you can't hunt with an AR-15. Firstly, bullet selection is the most important part of this discussion. While you can go hunting with full metal jacket bullets, you really shouldn't. In Georgia, you legally can't, therefore necessitating that we choose a cartridge that has suitable bullet designs. Thankfully, that's pretty much most commercially available cartridges, including .223 Remington or 5.56 NATO, on the market which has a loading using either a hollow point or soft point bullet. 

Next, we need to identify what we are doing with the gun. In this case, we want to hunt deer and since most of my shots are under 120 yards, I have no need for a rifle that shoots further. That statement right there is what makes the Winchester 94 in 30-30 an American mainstay for hunting. The Model 94 has been around since 1894 and there are several companies making surrogates such as Marlin, Mossberg and Henry. Why does Winchester and friends continue to sell lever action rifles in 30-30? Because 30-30 works great for deer in short ranges and people LOVE level action rifles. ROMANCE!

Since those parameters of sub-150 yard range and 30-30 level performance is achievable we just need to find something that isn't 30-30 that is close. In 2018, Olin released a new cartridge called 350 Legend. Both cartridges operate around the 2200 FPS range with bullet weights around the 150 to 170 grain range. This should put us in the 1600 to 1800 ft-lbs of energy range. 


 

350 Legend on the left with 30-30 on the right.


Ultimately, the 350 Legend has a very similar ballistic performance envelope compared with 30-30. The differences are that the 350 Legend is a .35 caliber or 9mm bullet to 30-30's .308 caliber bullet and that 30-30 has a much larger case but the pressure rating is much lower than 350 Legend at 42,000 PSI vs 55,000 PSI chamber pressure. This means that the 350 Legend can have a shorter, smaller case for the same performance of the 30-30. Thankfully, Olin (who owns Winchester) was able to package the 350 Legend into an over all length that makes it work in the AR-15's magazine and action. This is how we are able to use the AR-15 platform for taking deer as a dead replacement for the Model 94. There are other cartridges such as 300 HAM'R but since 300 HAM'R isn't as widely offered, 350 Legend seems to make more sense. 






I added a few extra requirements that my replacement build needed to achieve. It needed to be lighter than or equal to the Winchester in it's in-field weight which is 8.5 lbs, It needed to be able to host my silencer and be able to use modern scopes such as the low power, variable optic type scope. It needed to be more ergonomic and finally, not too expensive. 

The AR-15 easily can be built with all of those accessories to reach well into the 9 lbs range so I started looking for lightweight parts to reduce the build weight. When I built out the upper receiver and added the scope, the weight was right at 5 lbs. When I added the original A2 style stock I have for another build, I ended up right at 8.5 lbs. Changing over to lower with a CAR stock brings the weight down a little but we can do better. Thankfully, Lancer has options for carbon fiber handguards and the awesome dudes at InRange TV worked with KE Arms to put together a lower receiver and stock combo that weighs under 2 lbs.  With the WWSD (What Would Stoner Do) KP-15 lower and stock we reduced weight even more. Sadly, no one is making a 350 Legend barrel in a sporter profile so I had to use a standard profile barrel. 

I was able to build this rifle to just at 7.6 lbs with scope but without the Dead Air Wolfman silencer and 8 lbs with the silencer using a fixed mount. I'd say I nailed the weight part. 




In the end, I was successful in assembling a replacement for my Winchester 94 with an AR-15 for hunting deer. I haven't been able to tune AR or do any real testing or corrective action as ammo is so incredibly expensive right now. The best I could do was zero the current Primary Arms LPVO it has on top. It is an absolute struggle to find any usable ammo let alone any ammo loaded for hunting. I'm still waiting for the Federal Fusion 160 grains to become available but when they do, I'll be stocking up for testing.

29 December 2018

.45 Colt - Part Ducks (Deux) or The Pietta 1873 Cabela's Special

Some time ago, I had taken interest in the classic big bore cartridge, .45 Colt. It took some time to get there but I was able to locate something of significant interest.

It started with a pair of cowboy boots and Saturday mornings watching the Rifleman on AMC. Then it turned into a reloading setup and a Winchester 94 AE in .45 Colt. About 4 years ago, I had noticed that Bass Pro would run a sale on the Uberti 1873 Cattleman (nearly identical to the Pietta model) for around $399. I would miss the deal and would have to wait, until the other day when I noticed the Pietta model was at $349 and jumped on it. I thought it was a sale but the prices seem to be the regular, everyday price. More on that later.

Fairly recently, Cabela's (now owned by Bass Pro Shops) appears to have worked out some sort of deal with Pietta over in Italy to import and sell the 1873-SA, a Colt Single Action Army pattern pistol. I say this because I noticed some markings on the bottom of the barrel that say Cabela's. I'm not entirely sure but I believe that this is the same Pietta that produces the reproduction percussion cap, black powder pistols such as the Colt 1851 and Remington 1858 pieces. I own 2 of the repro. 1851 cap and ball revolvers.

The pistols come in 2 finishes, 2 barrel lengths and 3 chamberings, .45 Colt, .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum, of which the last one is most interesting. I purchased mine in .45 Colt with a 4.75 inch barrel and matte finish. Please note that the website shows a third, nickel finish but it doesn't appear to be for sale.

What makes this interesting comes in 2 data points. First, is that I had taken to an understanding that the 1873 platform wasn't particularly strong only able to handle the .45 Colt and similar rounds such as .38-40 and .44-40; that .44 Magnum was too much for the design. I had seen where companies had produced SAA/1873 pattern pistols in .44 Mag but those were modified in some way to handle such power. I am unaware if these 1873-SA's have had such modifications.

The other interesting data point is that these retail for $349 and $399. The base model .357 and .45 matte with 4.75 inch barrels are $349, while the .44 Mag version and blued versions (5.5 inch barrel only) retail for $399. This means that Cabela's is selling a .44 Mag revolver for $400. I am not currently aware of any brick and mortar store that is selling ANY kind of .44 Mag revolver around the $400 mark. The price alone puts me in a place where I'd like to buy another but in the .44 Mag version.

Moving on. I haven't spent any real time with the pistol other than working the hammer but it feels well enough and doesn't seem to have any glaring finish issues. It appears to be in time but I have yet to set it through it's paces. If my 1851's are any indicator, I'll have to replace minor parts like springs but it should be fine for a while.

I can say that I have taken it with me hunting, which for that price seems like a great choice. I will spend some time shooting it and get back with for details.

My initial thoughts are that, especially in .44 mag, the Pietta/Cabela's 1873-SA is a steal and is worth anyone's time (as long as you get a good one and not a lemon).